I bought these mitts mentraƮner MMA in my club (wrestling, boxing, grappeling, etc ...) and we must admit that these gloves are not made for a big drive or I have not had any luck ! The side seams of the left hand yielded after 2 weeks of use so I mitten ventilated well now ... If we look at the price is up to the finish so for real good mittens I board VENUM in the range of which is more expensive but much more qualitative or that proposed by ADIDAS remains a good alternative!