Bread baker / inside'd better buy the Kenwood KM040 Major

Bread baker / inside'd better buy the Kenwood KM040 Major

Kenwood KMC 010 food processor Chef (1400 watt, capacity 4,6 l, glass liquidiser) silver (household goods)

Customer Review

Video at Amazon.com view I had blinded admittedly by the appearance can (yes, she looks good) and now my evaluation of the machine is very difficult. Instead of Amazon I had ordered from a dealer in the form of an action package (package promotion) and so get the food processor and other components in addition to a much better price.

I cover our entire bread / rolls needed (about 2 - 3 loaves + bread / baguette). Even this bread / dough production without further ado to cope with the side, I now sought a food processor, which finished with my often strong bread dough will and pushed the Kenwood Chef 010. I then made by the appearance, dazzling 1,400 Watts and her bulky weight. Oooh and great as you can to even order as many accessories. Looked at soberly say that in my household: my Braun Multiquick I had actually only used for grating cheese for cheese fondue's and for the production of larger quantities of soup vegetables for the freezer. All other work in the kitchen I am doing faster, better and less expensive with normal kitchen appliances and my razor-sharp knives. Finally, I needed some 100 g chopped roasted sunflower seeds for one of my rye bread doughs. So, I thought, use your food processor: the food processor draufgesetzt, used pulse controlled operation, 50 g dust and 50 g almost all nuclei were the result and a huge part of the dishwasher great (my Braun was the much better). By the way: the herb and spice mill also does not work properly, as one can read in various forums and Rezentionen and showed me my own tests with fresh herbs.. In an attempt to process 35 g of dry brown bread into powder, I failed miserably at the herb and spice mill or dry them on a small piece of bread. I had the bread cut laboriously with a large knife in small pieces and then wanted this leftover bread add a new lump, as the baker do. In the end I had a terribly hot powder and percussion, where you almost burned his fingers. It remained 3 balls in bread marble size (which were heard clearly) cross and were shot across the glass. I could not do and do what I wanted: The balls were just back and hergeschossen, crushed they were not. The aroma was destroyed by the enormous heat. Now I took out my old Braun food processor. No matter what accessory: There are built-knives are extremely sharp. The Kendwood works with metal wings that you can not even describe with much imagination as knives. This also explains why there was a drama to produce the Glasmixaufsatz crushed ice, which you also can call it. In the middle there was slush and on the glass wall pasted large pieces of ice. Something then to serve as a Smoothie, only been possible when I took out the old Braun again. You have to imagine the times: A herb and spice mill, trying to smash the contents of the vessel, instead of cutting. So when I einfülle basil, the leaves are shredded by the totally blunt metal arms, instead of chopped, then, of course, warm and lose their flavor (if it even goes because usually hang the leaves on the glass wall).

All my devices that I have are actually better than what provides the Kenwood as an accessory. Except for the pasta attachment for pasta tube make the other additives for me personally makes little sense. In addition, my food is too important to me for example, mashed potatoes (like Kenwood recommends yes, you read that right!) With the food processor to paste processed (or the nightmare instructions for Kartoffelbreiherstellung in Kenwoodforum of chefkoch.de). To use a food processor to shred 2 onions and 2 carrots? Cakes and sweet things I like less and thus falls another reason for using the Kenwood away.

I must stress that I all of Kenwood not adversely anrechne because I was aware when purchasing, that I have a different idea about cooking as a kitchen machine manufacturer. I just wanted a machine for kneading dough and a few accessories, so I have some support during the comminution of very large amounts of vegetables and secretly thought that there may still be a few more ways to use them in the home.

But then came the big disappointment for me: The boss can not correct bread dough knead. Simple rye dough it lubricates the bowl wall and then turns the "dough hook" empty the crater created (see video - the example shows a dough with 75% rye flour - exactly as Kenwood instructions, see below). It is 5 minutes on the machine, it will stop after a few stirring movements, powers up his head, scratches permanently with a spatula the dough from the bowl rim (at least 15 seconds later all glued back on the wall), moves her head back down and wants Kenwood the Pest to the neck. In addition, under the dough remain dry flour residues which then give unsightly inclusions in bread.

Only if you are lucky and uses a recipe that results in a certain relatively liquid dough consistency (flour / water ratio), it is to some extent a dough. With "kneaded" I do not mean to stir ingredients together what the Kenwood actually makes. Pizza dough stirred the Kenwood in 1-2 minutes into a bale, which then separates from the bowl and the dough hook climbs upward. Kenwood believes then the batter would have done or should halt be made liquid. Well, the English have different ideas about the food. The dough has formed yet no structure. Anyone who really has a clue, the result can not be called a kneaded dough. I knead it then but still for 5 minutes on the baking board with your hands until it gets the right firm taut and very slightly shining structure.

Direct use of the Kenwood, it's a zerzupfelter in the fine structure lump of dough, the resulting baked flat bread, but no pizza.

For cakes fans is a food processor, like the Kenwood certainly a great great thing. With the K-beater and soft doughs everything works certainly wonderful. However, it is very subjective, how to assess the benefits and the ability of a food processor. In fact, I'd even buy me no universal bike that would be offered as a road bike, trike, Treckingrad and mountain biking.

My lower rating is based solely on the disappointment, however, that the Kenwood promises to knead dough, but it creates in very few cases. I am also not willing to adapt my food to the limited capabilities of a food processor.

Whoever takes the trouble, time researching on the Internet and short "Kenwood Chef kneading 010" enter as search terms, will get confirmed my assessment of a large number of users. The 2 star gets the Kenwood because it for the Cooking Chef Kenwood (similar Thermomix - almost looks like the boss 010) a new effective Spiralknethaken (also professional Spiralknethaken called) are, which fits well to the Kenwood Major. Kenwood has noticed that his dough hook does not work and has developed a good form of more expensive machines. Unfortunately, that does not fit on my machine, because it is probably a little longer, and / or has a different connector. In forums there are many messages that users think about it, your boss to sell to make zuzulegen a Major. In addition, newcomers are strongly advised to definitely buy the Kenwood Major and then to get to the Spiralknethaken. So then the dough kneading actually works (rather than proper kneading stirring).

Unfortunately, I went because of the descriptions in my order assumes that the Kenwood could knead properly and had made no effort to let me know in great detail. I thought that the wattage and the weight of the machine already saying that the machine is suitable for heavy doughs (in reality it is rather the ratio of the transmission, that is responsible for the power of the engine). The bread recipes that I found of enthusiastic Kenwoodnutzern the Internet have for me (subjective assessment mean) often nothing to do with bread, but similar to many of the bad recipes on the Internet. If Kenwood is able to produce a dough hook for kneading good, but does not offer him for the boss 010 and my respect in my mail asked if it would also be possibly the hook time for this head, tersely following answers.:

"- Must adjust the height of the kneading hook properly be (slightly above the bottom of the bowl)
- First the dry ingredients and pour then add the liquid ingredients with the machine running
- When working with the dough hook never exceed the speed level of "1".
If you notice that the machine has a hard, stop and reduce the amount of dough.
So even a bread dough should perfectly succeed, as for more than 60 years working at the Kenwood equipment also. "

I have to say, then everything has been made for 60 years, but no bread. Why then if, after 60 years necessary to bring another hook shape on the market, do not open up to me. Therefore, the machine I get only 2 stars. Other users can thus certainly conjure beautiful desserts, rasps nice carrot, squeeze lemon nice .... A majority of ordinary bread dough gets the machine does not go, without having to adapt the recipes - that's just a fact.

DC I get comments that my criticism is incomprehensible. Please then try with your machine the following recipe:

500g Italian flour Tipo 00 for pizza dough (do not use any flour !!!)
250 g of water
10 g salt
5 g of fresh yeast
1 tablespoon olive oil

The dough comes after 15 minutes Gare then covered with 6 degrees in the refrigerator as individual pieces for at least 48 hours with foil. The pizza is so fantastic on a brick building at 270 degrees in preheated oven.

Let the Kenwood stir this dough. If this dough will not completely goes as lump on dough hook carousel after 3 minutes, we have different machines. My dough in the Kenwood has to do with a tight dough whose wheat gluten / starch beautiful structures built up as little as mush with cake. Kenwood has a dough hook in the range, which actually works reasonably with other models and it would be a trifle to provide this for the chief. My roll doughs with a pâte fermentée also form clumps on the hook in no time. Do I have wg. the inability of the Kenwood, to knead dough correctly, add more water, as provided for in the recipe?

In free cookbook of Kenwood, which you can have it sent via the machine enclosed order form, is a recipe for focaccia and clarifies the Kenwood certainly like to understand what the pass, grinding, grating, shredding, but in this recipe get Italians convulsive laughter ( so similar to pizza recipes in German cookbooks "... and now you bake the pizza 20 minutes or longer at 180 degrees in the oven nice and crispy."). Incidentally Kenwoood refers on its website even in a pizza recipe to the use of new Spiralknethakens "Attach the Spiral Dough Hook and Splash Guard. Dissolve the yeast in the water. Add all the ingredients to the bowl. Set the speed to 1 and knead for 5 7 minutes. " (Which does not exist for the head 010).

Clear Conclusion for me: The Küchemmaschineneinsatz is a question of your own cooking philosophy and I have now learned that for me, the use of these devices for the normal cooking brings absolutely nothing. I would buy today for kneading dough either the Kenwood Major and to buy the professional Spiralknethaken or like me have a real machine like the Ankasrum assistant.

(Update 04/08/2014: I wanted after my frustration but times more possibilities to use my Kenwood and use the balloon whisk for whipping ingredients of a foam desserts because that takes a considerable amount of time Yeah, I have a Kenwood. . Euphoric I grabbed the still original packaging accessory in, put it in the bayonet coupling of Kenwood and immediately noticed that the distance between bowl and whisk was much too big. No problem, I remembered that Kenwood describes in 2 sets, how to deal with can change the included wrench the length of the mixing and kneading elements. But when I have to go to loosen the locknut at the whisk to the vice, is exceeded a boundary line. The whisk offers no options for countering, as each pressure on the wire mesh deforms Kenwood. would at least have a fixed welded hexagon nut can attach, so there is a possibility of being able to hold the assembly and tightening the nut with a 2 key. Even IKEA provides more elaborate products.

Now the reason for various posts in forums I am also aware, in which users are looking for spare pins to connect bayonet coupling. I was wondering how to lynch the bayonet during normal use. Since you have tried to do the problem with the help of pliers. There seems to be a general problem. The sentence in the Kenwood-mail "The height adjustment of the kneading hook should be completely (just over the bowl bottom)" is only mockery, because by the climbing against the dough under the locknut mounted arched protective shell can not be set correctly, a key and brings possibly less technically gifted people even injury. Just for fun I have, although my dough hook is factory set correctly, then tried to loosen the lock nut on the dough hook. Without the use of a pipe wrench or a cranked gifts key that is not possible without possibly damaging by slipping the key the Mother! Love Kenwood, if only this construct and the corresponding description in the manual dates from times when probably a gifted artisan husband was in every household in the kitchen cupboard. This offense would have been with some cunning to avoid when developing. How Kenwood said in the mail to me? "... As been around for over 60 years and works at the Kenwood machines." However, I have the impression.

Oh yes, a very serious point of criticism, which revealed itself only after a few of my assignments: When the head of Kenwood is the rotating dough hook, whisk or K-hook folded up during operation, the elements continue to rotate in undiminished speed. The rotating equipment One works directly in front face. What happens if someone comes to the small lever to trigger the spring-driven folding up and gets caught with the clothes, the hand or the watchband in the rapidly rotating dough hook, I do not want to know. The machine stirred with considerable force, which is hardly comparable to my old Braun. I myself had only one splashed sticky area in the kitchen, when I stayed at Tran when turning instead of the large button to release lever of the head lifting mechanism operated times that even both were mounted on the same side of the machine together. I do not understand quite frankly at a machine in this price range that the engine is not stopped when lifting. I find this irresponsible. With its inexpensive machines Kenwood has built the stop. In my brown no function was bootable, if I did not get the lid of the vessel tightly closed. For example, that point just below the lid Schnitzel discs rotate at a high speed Kenwood unabated or dissolves from the axis if one removes the lid. In one operation, such a device would have probably long since removed for the sake of job security.

The more experience I'm doing with this appliance, the more I come to the conclusion that many food processors Fans probably adjust cooking and ultimately their food and therefore their demands on the limited possibilities of a food processor. I know that in the circle and see it on the Internet. You buy a "great" machine and then look for recipes that can be reacted with the machine. Seem to me the most ways to use them as part of the cooking of food, easy to "oversized" and extremely cumbersome, see the following simple recipe from Kenwood, the first thing I found on the Kenwood website:

1. Heat the oil in a frying pan, potato, tomato and onion and fry for 10 minutes.
2. garlic, broth, milk and shrimps or prawns add, boil and then simmer covered for 20 minutes.
3. Cool the soup, then purée in a blender attachment, if necessary, until the soup is smooth in several portions.
4. Season with salt and freshly ground black pepper and heat again briefly in the pot.

I've played through times: Allow to cool soup. Glass blender Remount. Then the soup in the Glasamixaufsatz (1.5 L) pour whose top edge is the relatively small opening in my resized kitchen in about 1.60 m in height (so I have the pot almost on face level lift). I must then also quantitatively no longer cook, fit as in the mixer or I have to run the procedure several times. Soup I cook, for example in a 4-liter saucepan in professional copy (surplus goes into the chest), the empty already own 3 kg; with soup weigh up to 6 kilograms and then I climb on a ladder for 45 minutes (at this pot type), the cooled soup to fill in portions in the Glasmixaufsatz or fiddle camps in an intermediate vessel until everything was mashed in individual passages, and then back into the pot with a ladle, then from the Glasmixaufsatz out .... ????? Remove glass blender again, disassemble and then pack the relevant parts in the dishwasher. Who else has nothing to do ..... cream soups I puree with my powerful blender 3 - 4 min directly in the cooking pot, rinse it off and that's it. As I would with the remains of a tall glass cylinder Kenwood mixer, a nasty percussion, a large pot, a ladle to be purged, an intermediate vessel for the already pureed soup shares ......
Whip the cream in a 4.6 liter pot? 1 - beat 2 egg whites? Chop vegetables for a stir-fry food in a unit form or fiddling with 3 disks? Making Pesto as green paste or even commit barbarism to stir the milk and butter to the mashed potatoes with a food processor? There may even be people who even destroy their coffee beans in the herb and spice mill and think this is a wonderful idea and are very beigeistert.

Mir is now clear why Kenwood does not use the right knife in the food processor, in the herb and spice mill and the mixing glass. Sharp knives are eaten downright dull by the detergent in the dishwasher. Since it has permanent masses of dirty and usually very unhandlichem dishes when using the Kenwood, Kenwoood tried to design a machine in which you can pretty much put everything in the dishwasher. Therefore halt ingredients are not cut, but downright smashing, even if this means the loss of flavor components. On my old Braun the knives were so sharp that you look so careless in assembling almost the finger was cut off. With the Braun therefore it was possible to control for example in the manufacture pesto yourself how fine or coarse you want the ingredients. With the Kenwood there is a single mud. If you do not like and stops sooner, you usually still whole pine nuts in pesto. Cooking also has something to do for me with sensuality and that includes the shape of cut vegetables, the state of sauces etc. Things. 2 friends who work as cooks at the restaurant, never use a food processor and teased me when I told them about my purchase plans. But yes, I would not listen to their Profirat and absolutely had to spend a bulk of money.

Yesterday was a Westphalian black bread. The sourdough from rye meal was the night become over active beautiful, the batter from selbstgemahlenem whole wheat flour was also gone very well. Now everything with more rye flour, salt, treacle, etc. added to the mixing bowl and the dough should now 2 x with 30 minutes of rest are kneaded for 30 minutes and a paddle will be used. So hastily chucked the K-beater and lo and behold, the dough would be pressed upwards and threatened blow away the cheap plastic cover. Then the dough stuck permanently as mortar on top of the cover. With the dough hook's been back only a volcanic crater in which the hook turned empty. I then got 2 x 30 minutes! on the machine and press the dough with a spatula to bottom. Before that I tried 40g !!!!! dried black bread to pulverize the food processor with the herb and spice mill and the mixing jug in small crumb as a flavor carrier for the Teigteig. The bread I had laboriously cut in almond pieces. In vain, none of the variants made it. After I rausholte my big hand blender from Philip, the problem was solved in 10 seconds. I do not get it how someone can make with this machine effectively bread (I'm Ing. For Chem. Chemical Engineering and stirring, heating, etc. Seven major component of my job has been.). Anyone who believes they could one bread within 2 with one of the gruesome recipes in magazines and Internet - manufacture 3 hours by simply together stirred ingredients and it can go 1 hour has no idea of ​​what makes up the taste and texture of bread , the money may save for the machine and buy the same ne bag Aufbackbrötchen or buy his bread in the next bakery.

No technically skillful man would buy for 500 euros a hammer drill in which is promised, that you also can thus underline and paper walls, tile grouting and may tighten the cylinder head bolts.

After these few weeks and the negative experiences I get more and more to the conclusion that I would have bought a better Ankasrum for kneading dough. I'm going to the Kenwood resell. Since I do not like cakes and pastries no, I can not say whether the Kenwood is good at least for baking cakes. Therefore it retains its 2 stars. Otherwise I'd seen her the price / performance ratio ago, not be a single star.)

Delicate touch Pointe Rank: 2/5
January 25
Good product 354 Rank: 4/5
September 27
sauve qui peut Rank: 1/5
July 17
Good choice for a wall mount Rank: 5/5
September 10
Dredger at bay Rank: 2/5
May 6
try it is to adopt 26 Rank: 5/5
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