these really good as a looper little easily adjust the temperatures there even has a "timer" depending on the loop have souhaitz but both have drawbacks that I see in him is that the "cone" is not enough big (for my visor) and the tip of the looper where you can put your fingers is annoying because it often has hair that will get stuck in and that the arache apare ... its such a good straightener heats quickly and making beautiful curls and in addition has taken great: D