For all others who need extensive information, for example on comparable devices or accessories available in the market and their prices, I'll go into further detail.
This can be quite tiring and boring for most of them.
My experiences are based on 3 of the best instruments of the type.
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MARKET OVERVIEW
- Skil 5330 AA:. Power consumption 600 W, Max Cutting depth in wood: 28.5 mm, the description indicates 0.8 kg, I have measured 2.2 kg, can 110.39 at Amazon.
- VersaCut Worx WX420: Power consumption 400 W, Max Cutting depth in wood: 27 mm, 1.5 kg 129 exclusively at Hornbach.. Laser guidance.
- Dremel Handkreissäge DSM20 3/4: Power consumption 710 W, Max Cutting depth in wood: 20 mm, 1,7 kg 139, 118 at Amaton..
- Batavia 7060765:. Power consumption 600 W, Max Cutting depth in wood: 22 mm, 120, 77.95 at Amaton.
- Einhell TC CS 860:. Power consumption 450 W, Max Cutting depth in wood: 23 mm, 2 kg 59.95 on Amazon. There is the saw for 50 more with 9 blades and cheap plastic suitcase.
- PowerPlus POWX 365 MB. Power consumption 600 W, Max Cutting depth in wood: 28,5 mm, 2,6 kg 114.90 at Amazon.
- Bosch PKS 16. Power consumption 400 W, Max Cutting depth in wood: 16 mm, 2,2 kg 129, 97.77 at Amazon.
- Germania mini circular saw: Power consumption 450 W, Max Cutting depth in wood: 27 mm, no weight, 78.99 at Amazon..
- Made for DEMA, mini Handkreisäge with Laser: No Information for power, not specified for Max cutting depth in wood, no weight, 69.99 at Amazon..
- Matrix mini Handkreissäge 130600267: Power consumption 500 W, Max Cutting depth in wood: 26.5 mm, no further information, 91 on Amazon..
- MAKITA Accu Mini Handkreissäge 10.8V HS300DZ: Li-Io battery, Max Cutting depth in wood: 25.5 mm, no weight, 88 at Amazon without battery, without charger, no indication of the necessary battery model..
- Bosch GKS 10.8 V Battery: No data on power, depth of cut, weight etc. Exotic un mysterious device that does not matter (sales rank 143 693), 147.29 without battery, without charger.
I own the first 3 of this list. As for the other, so I can not make any assessment, but I would leave the fingers of mini circular saw without information on performance, cutting depth or weight. When producers and distributors have not even tried to make minimum information, it is also expected that the supply of blades and spare parts is extremely problematic.
As for the cordless tools, I'm basically positive because of my experiences with the Dremel 8200, a Makita jigsaw or -Schlagbohrer. However, one needs for these devices more batteries and a charger because the pure operating time under load is usually around 10 minutes. These accessories cost a lot more than the device itself.
I have not listed the Ryobi CS120L because this device is hardly available in Germany, batteries and leaves but still. The blades for the Ryobi have significance for the Skil 5330 AA because they can fit it if you have the correct centering.
Right known in the scene of the craftsmen / home improvement are the first 5 devices of this list, with the Dremel is suitable because of its small saw blades / cutting depth rather for modellers and less for building.
Since the leaves are very small, rotating very quickly and the engine is very powerful, report many Dremel owners of heat problems and the incision is more difficult than with larger leaves to 85mm.
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PERFORMANCE, depth of cut and PRICE
A power of approx. 500 W (recording power) and a cutting depth of min. 26mm seem to me to make sense. Usually is the power output on the spindle rd. half of the receiving stream. With 600 W and 28.5 mm depth of cut, the Skil 5330 AA delivers peak values.
For a good device like this Skil, or the Works or Batavia you really have to spend 110-120 euros (cheapest supplier).
Cheap cell phones can be expensive in the long run, for example, because you will find little or no accessories or spare parts. I would always advise you to look before buying to first after good carbide saw blades and Diamanscheiben and then to buy the unit and not vice versa. It's like when shooting: Only see what there is for lenses and then decide on a brand and choose the enclosure.
The Skil 5330 AA is designed and constructed in Holland and is made in China.
This can be offered fairly low in the premium class of this device, but there is also a back to the medal. But patience, it will not stop there!
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SUPPLIED ACCESSORIES (2.5 stars)
First I want to mention that the depicted hose to Spännenabsaugung was not supplied. That can only be a mistake because it is also displayed in the operating instructions. The Chinese are so pretty sloppy and quality control has probably permanent holiday.
Then you should to the two supplied 89mm fine tooth saw blades do not have big expectations: There are simple gestantzte steel sheets with slightly staggered teeth, actually very cheap offerings for soft material. And even with the 85 mm diamond disc I have seen better (see retrofitting ... below).
So if you want a serious cut or separate so that I should as soon as possible look for reasonable discs, especially for carbide-tipped saw blades with 80-89 mm diameter and 10 mm cut-outs, because the supplied washers are not even survive the first day.
In short, the unit itself is almost professional class, the accessories far.
The hex key is nice and long and is very well attached to the power cord. This power cable is incidentally about 3m long and of good quality.
The rip fence is not plastic but metal (painted black), with 8mm wide bar and 79mm parallel leadership robust but minimalistic, even in bright light very difficult to read (satin black on black satin finish) and wobbles also because the slots for 8mm bar left and right in the base clearly too long as the necessary 8mm were punched.
This can be through the fixing screw not mitigate the parallel guide uses this screw (which is also placed too far to the right) as a fulcrum and can the side game of approx. 1mm, the offer gestanztzen holes, make full use of. Needless to say that he likes to do.
This does, of course, from the parallelism.
If the stopper is inserted so that it passes through both slits (which is necessary for a reasonable attachment) can cut pieces of max. 109 mm wide are cut. This is of course very little, Complies more the needs of modellers and dollhouse decorators as other handicraft purposes.
Overall, I gained the impression that this part was adopted with metric measure sight unseen from a Chinese subcontractor, while another was (perhaps in inches) in charge of the production of the base plate.
For the Supplied Accessories I forgive 2.5 stars.
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Retrofitted with BLADES (2 stars)
The 5330 AA requires disks with 85 mm overall diameter, the holes in the center have 10mm diameter. But one does not have to strictly abide by the overall diameter, the case still has, even with the supplied 89 mm sheet metal saw blades few mm play. The slot of the base plate is just over 90mm long and can accommodate even larger wheels, as it will not boot until the middle of the disks.
For example, look a the 89 mm discs with only 84 of the 90 mm by the Lacerates.
Theoritisch could therefore disks with RD. Install 95 mm diameter, but since the housing of the saw blade will probably reach their upper limit.
Centering around other discs with larger holes are not included.
So if you have no Reduzierscheibe from 15 to 10 mm in 1 mm height, one has to rely on native slices with 10 mm holes. Since the fixing screw has an integrated washer with 20 mm diameter on the inside, their pressure would still drive a disc with 15 mm hole well.
The 5330 AA is a problematic hand saw in one respect.
For example, while a Worx WX420 with 3,500 U / m (RPM) is idling, the 5330 delivers a powerful 6,000 RPM AA idle.
If diamond wheels with 85mm diameter that is no problem, they are up to 20,000 RPM or 90 m / s approved. This also applies to the saw blades from stamped sheet metal, because the teeth are part of the disk, they do not fly away.
When a saw blade, on the other hand, the relatively heavy carbide teeth are soldered to the circumferential edge. And so has a WA5034 7,000 RPM, a BQ27195048 11,500 RPM, a Wolfcraft 6241 with 16 teeth or a 6242 with 28 carbide teeth only 3,000 RPM.
So half as much as the 5330 AA turns.
Now it is so that when the hand saw bites into the material, the speed is in the basement and there - as in submarines - are associated safety reserves, but a lot of theoritisch best discs on the market must use the 5330 AA not easy.
So I ask myself what people have thought in Dutch design office thereby. Because everyone knows that HM saw blades lightyears better cutting performance than bring the cheap Chinese saw blades made of sheet metal, which are included.
You can still use the 5330 AA with some carbide saw blades but it takes time and money to find them and get to.
Conclusion:
If you already so produces a fiasco, then heard a continuous speed control and an electronic torque management in the device, as with drills, jig saw etc. Many cheaper tools that too!
This recklessness / ignorance, not to say incompetence cost me points!
So now it continues: Here are the most interesting discs:
Enforced or at least very widespread in the market have discs with 85 to 85.7 mm overall diameter, but 15mm bore. For example, for Worx, or Ryobi and offered good and cheap from vendors such Wolfcraft.
for example:
- Art 6241, equipped with 16 carbide teeth, 2 expansion holes and 0.9mm cutting width, 3,000 RPM..
- Art 6242, equipped with 28 carbide teeth, 2 expansion holes and 0.9mm cutting width, 3,000 RPM..
Such leaves are mildly much better than the sheet metal discs, mitliefert the Skil.
However, diamond blades as the Worx WA5038 or WA5037, both with 85 mm are incomparable quality. The Diamantbesctückung the WA5037 is almost twice as wide and it has 6 expansion slots. The WA5038 has to powers of two more diamonds as the paltry Skil-disk, since this can have an expert elicit tears of pity.
But all of these delicious plates with 15mm hole punch does not fit on the Skil 5330 AA and Skil also provides, as I said, no adapter from 10 mm to 15 mm bore. Then there is also the OE RPM problem.
Therefore, I can only recommend perforated discs 15 mm / 10 mm / 1 mm to get anywhere, it is worth.
Proxxon offers very good HM saw blades with 10 mm bore, among other things, the circular saw blade with 36 28732 Carbide teeth and a cutting width of 1.5 mm for 20.75 euros here at Amazon.
But it has only 80 mm diameter. Most HM Sägebläter of Proxxon incidentally have 50mm diameter. So you lose with the 80 mm HM disc of Proxxon some mm to cutting depth, nevertheless, for relatively thin material is achieved thanks to the 36 teeth a clean cut in wood, plastics and non-ferrous metals.
Batavia offers with Art. 7058019, a 85 mm saw blade with 10mm-hole, 24 x Carbide teeth and probably 1.5 mm cutting width, 2 pieces for 16.29 here on Amazon. That's a very good deal because cheap and the 24 teeth are very close to each other, thus promising a fast, yet clean cutting power.
Therefore, I am - subject to the RPM-approval of these discs - think that the Skil-people have not necessarily chosen the worst solution, but if they had the benefit of customers in mind, or at least the use of discs with 15 mm -Lochung would allow and would not have imposed their second-rate goods in first line. That costs me again points.
Skil-people are not the only ones who slip up, Other overdo it too:
The Worx VersaCut is sold exclusively at Hornbach and prices for Saw blades are there over peppered. I could, however, buy a lot of time matching sheets in relatively large quantities or low bid and the ones I did not need to sell in auctions.
With brand equipment such as Bosch and Dremel you find easy replacement blades, but here the prices are not really cheap. Due to the small diameter of the Dremel blades wear plus very fast and because it is entirely on the exotic dimensions and astronomical prices of Dremel instructed.
But there are also for brand appliances and for Works and Batavia relatively easy no-name sheets favorable because these devices are well known. That might be true just case for the device of Einhell as well for this new device from Skil. But that costs a lot of time to look after.
One should definitely tipped diamond blades and carbide blades that get as above me. The last have the designation HM. The more teeth the better and finer the cut, and the cutting performance.
Although HM saw blades look thicker than the metal saw blades with very thin nd numerous teeth, the cutting width is the same in both cases, with 1.5 mm. That so much of the material is transformed with each cut in sawdust and dust / Spänne.
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HOW TO USE
First and most important: The screw for changing the saw blade at circular saws has a left-hand thread! So if you tried, as usual, in the opposite direction to loosen the screw, making them more tightly, as this Amazoner which the screw with all his might to destroy raped by the device then as defective returned after he had rated it as unfit. Yes, Amazon reviews can be unintentionally funny sometimes.
Second, the drawing of Bedienungsaweisung is ambiguous with regard to the installation sequence in a blade change. So the following sequence:
- Insert blade. For this, the floating diving equipment must be turned all the way up. Unlocking is carried out with the red button above.
- Insert spacer, center and hold.
- Festtellschraube screw (counter clockwise of).
Third, the sheet changes is more complicated than with angle grinders and Jigsaw:
As you can see the tide change is not easy, because you have the same
- Hold the device
- Keep the red button pressed for unlocking.
- Swivel the diving device upwards and hold (because a steel spring constantly tries to close).
- Insert the blade. It is just enough space for them to maneuver inside.
- Has followed the spacer insert and hold to focus ds thread the set screw.
Falling spacer or locking screw and lost, this is no substitute, and the device becomes unusable.
Fourth: If you press on the switch on the bottom, the device puts brutally going forward with extreme force. regulating the speed there is not even!
The device weighs ready to slice and rip fence 2,2 Kg and when they come to life in a split second, they develop a torque, which is not safe for delicate joints. I'll say it again: the 5330 AA is a powerful machine, the most powerful of its kind, not a toy!
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CONCLUSIONS AND OVERALL
In conclusion of this chapter as well as Overall, I would have to classify the 5330 AA as a professional class.
Based on my experience, but I would recommend people who are looking for beyond angle and jigsaw, separate and cut another solution, in particular of wood, plastics, nonferrous metals or tile as a relatively thin plates or tubes or profiles. In particular, for wood or composites, it offers unmatched mobile cutting performance to effectively max. 30mm thickness (28.5 per description).
The 5330 AA rotates almost twice as fast idle as leading competitors (RPM problem).
That's too fast for many 85 mm discs with brazed carbide teeth.
Since the speed can not be throttled, many of the best, most efficient and cheapest HM saw blades for this device remain sidelined.
The guide is very good, even without a laser beam, the cutting line can be represented by notch, pursue fine line and recess in the base plate slightly. But it is difficult: After all the phone weighs 2.2 kg and developed incredible powers. So you are well advised to prepare well to a very high load on the wrist and to show at each operation the highest care and attention! The part is not for the faint defnitiv natures.
The accuracy is about 1 mm because of the rip fence is no professional class, has some play and has very small dimensions. It is also difficult to read unless you painted numerals and indices with 1 Eding 780 white and wipes it off then gently with a towel and barely solvent from.
Bevel cuts are not possible like a real circular saw. Speed control or electronic torque management, there are not, but are in commercial. Use not in use.
As a circular saw - so the middle of a plate - it is also fully compatible, but must at the depth near the Schittlinien opposite the max. Thickness of 30 mm several mm to be sacrificed, or making the Finishing Touches with the jigsaw.
Dust extraction directly at the interface is not possible because the imaged tube was not packed together. A carrying bag / luggage is not there. Is a good thing because experience has shown that is usually only included waste and anyone who has so buying a good part probably a tool bag the better sort.
The 5330 AA and her sisters require the sheet changes a bit more skill and experience than with angle grinder or jigsaw, but this one has everything with a little practice to get a grip.
Definitely a really powerful machine that is ideal for kitchen and shop, but in connection with a jigsaw and of course with good blades. Although the included accessories is not for a ton, but ... well, let's say for starters or with other words the 5330 AA ot worthy.
As such, there are certainly many things that in my list Here! Is not really good. But the machine itself is in my quite demanding scale actually OK and the price, of course, absolutely justified for so much performance and robustness.
Actually, the device deserves at first glance 5 stars, but partly because of the many little things and the weaknesses of the scope of supply, the incomprehensible RPM problems and much more, I can not forgive the full score with the best intentions.
If you read all this, you will understand why 4 stars are the highest I can do for this device.
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Are there alternative?
Hobbyists, crafters, builders, etc., do not know the mini circular saw are probably wondering if they have to buy such an electric appliance. For this group, the question is different from craftsmen in Kitchens, Gardening, Shop fittings etc, who want to cut the whole day plates quickly and cleanly without a 40 kg Metabo haul with frame.
The handyman will only fulfill his desires with jigsaw, circular saw / chop saw and angle grinder and then treat yourself to a mini circular saw.
Therefore, I still go short on a discussion of the differentiations:
Yes! There are alternatives to mini circular saw:
With so-called. Flex, or one-handed angle you can buy all sorts of blades for tiles, stone and metal, with 1mm cutting width low almost everywhere. These discs have standard diameter of 115 or 125 mm and fit at each angle. Turn very quickly, so that (also because of the higher circumference), the cutting edge considerably more meters per second into the material cuts than a mini portable circular saw. But that does not apply to wood, because there is no saw blades for angle grinders are in principle (because Angle would have a larger scope and very high speeds over 100m / s, the soldered metal teeth of HM saw blades turn into projectiles).
The saw blades for Mini-portable circular saw have smaller diameters up to max. 85mm and have different holes in the middle of the assembly.
The HM-saw blades are usually allowed to 3000 U / m (RPM), of course, have safety margins. The Worx WX420 example rotates at 3,500 RPM. However, the 5330 AA rotates at 6,000 RPM. However, it is idle speeds under load the RPM is reduced by approx. the half. Nevertheless, one has to take a closer look at the 5330 AA what you as dauf screwed.
Therefore, for the handyman a mini circular saw is not in the front row of the purchases.
UU is a jigsaw the right. Higher jigsaw have become a good leader can to 10 cm thick cut wood and mounted on stationary base at the edge of the table so that you can introduce the workpiece with both hands on the saw blade. Saw blades are available for wood, metals, plastics, rubber and even glass. This flexibility and versatility, not a mini circular saw.
Are priced premium devices of one or the other type in roughly the same level, at 100 upwards. There are also cheap cell phones for occasional use from 20 euros, as in drills.
When working against intensively as part of a refurbishment / renovation with plates, tiles etc. makes a mini circular saw paid quickly.
The 5330 AA should then come on the short list, but clarify first which saw blades should get.
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