Good machine with small weaknesses in detail

Good machine with small weaknesses in detail

Saeco HD8967 / 01 GranBaristo Avanti coffee machine, app, stainless steel / anthracite (household goods)

Customer Review

The Gran Baristo Avanti is the new flagship of Saeco. Apart from the usual functions of a fully automatic coffee machine Saeco has him Bluetooth and the ability to control the machine by about Tablet donated. The machine features Saeco typically by good workmanship, excellent coffee, a pleasantly quiet grinder and an elegant design.

However, the machine also has a few minor flaws that would individually not significant, but in me the sum to bring to evaluate only good four stars the machine. That may be dismissed as a bleating at a high level, but the higher the price level, the higher the level Grump, I mean.

Only with respect to the output of coffee, the machine would, however, a very strong buy recommendation for me; This is so far the best home-fully automatic-coffee I drank. (Tl / dr)

Below I will go to all the major points in detail:

Design / build (2+):

The design consists of high-quality plastic; the sides are decorated with reflective gray, is framed the whole thing in high-gloss chrome look. The front is black in the operating area and including in matte aluminum. With the design like it very much because it sophisticated with a high impact despite a lot of plastic; In addition, the exterior of the machine is so easy to clean with a damp microfibre cloth.

But the closed design is also the first trifles owed that bother me. The water tank is namely introduced on the top and then covered by a flap. From design aspect ago it's certainly nice not to see the tank, however, the machine should be as compelling free, under a top cabinet, you can not set it up. The marking for the maximum capacity of the tank is my opinion is incidentally somewhat optimistic; one fills the tank as far as indicated, is quite Schwappgefahr. I fill the already good-sized tank is therefore limited to four-fifths.

On the top you will also find the beans Depot. This can completely stand a great and practical idea, since you so easily spill the beans and a different variety can fill. The size of the deposit is very good size. My advice, if you often switch between espresso and regular coffee: simply buy a second bean Depot and then always the same change throughout the deposit.

The beans are then ground in a ceramic grinder. This works surprisingly quiet and very convinced me. The background noise while pumping and broths is gratifying quiet. Early morning coffee facilities without waking the rest of the family, is not a problem with the Saeco machine.

Initial setup (2):

The initial setup is quite liberal with the Quick Start Guide that came from equip. Philips Typically this is a lot of work with pictographs, as well as the text is easy to understand. However, there is again a small interfering hook: the first manual rinsing of the machine you will not pointed out how big to make the collecting vessel. Only one should make a vessel below, then press repeatedly the hot water function. But Do not expect that so a lot of an ordinary cup comes out. In three rinsing cycles, the machine empties the entire tank, a vessel with 0,4l content should already be ready. My normal-sized coffee mug was full, for example, to the edge and I was wondering, how do I prevent overflowing. Is this little cliff circumnavigated, the machine is operational but wide after a good quarter of an hour, and it can go to the coffee making.

Coffee / milk drinks (1+):

Here you can first select a profile for the bean used: Profile Saeco (mix Arabica / Robusta), Profile Arabica and Robusta profile. With these settings, the machine selects the most appropriate strength and the pressure for each bean. Here I was quite surprised that the coffee (100% Arabica blend) again a little better, more intense and round taste as in the upper class of the competition machine (DeLonghi Prima Donna).
In general, the coffee is characterized by a very high temperature, a beautiful and durable Crema and a very round flavor and hardly existent bitterness. The one-touch preset amounts of coffee and Americano are very reasonable. The amount of coffee can also be individually adjusted by the memo function. To this end, holding down the desired key longer and the display will show memo. Then start the product and once the gewüschte amount in the cup, press the button again for the product. Then, the machine stores the individual adjustment.

The milk coffee specialties convince in taste and appearance. The Latte Macchiato is shown as wonderful in the different phases. The milk foam in cappuccino has a very nice and fine-pored solid consistency; Sugar remains loosely lying on the foam and both taste, as well as the mouthfeel can not be faulted. For my taste, only the preset foam / milk is a bit too small, so I then manually adjusted after a few Cappus. A little disturbing but probably taste to neglecting - I feel that the preparation of milk drinks always only a small amount of water from the nozzle comes before the milk outlet. (If you try, the pay out, you have to be very fast)

After each milk drink, the machine offers a quick cleaning of the nozzle. If you have this done, you can simply the tank in the refrigerator until the next drink. The cleaning is needed only after the last drink, which is prepared on a slide to perform. However, one should not change his mind: you have deselected the quick cleaning once, there is no way but to start it manually yet. You can only start a full cleaning of the milk carafe over the settings. About a trick to get by the way still to quick cleaning: Once selecting hot milk, wait until the machine will start and then stop. Now you choose the quick cleaning of the nozzle from the automatic menu.

The taste convinced me the machine, moreover, to their full extent.

Cleaning / Maintenance (2)

In order to have maximum enjoyment at a high quality fully automatic, of course, belongs to regular care and cleaning. The best most of it should happen automatically and the manual tasks should require little effort. The Saeco makes some automatically (by rinsing the machine during connection and disconnection, full cleaning of the nozzles on the milk carafe user input), but not much. I generally feel that they need more frequent maintenance than other machines.

On the key points, the machine's display to, so when the tank is empty or the pomace tray needs to be emptied; in the latter case the machine certainly appears to go to the counter and ask for a certain number of coffees to empty the container. Flushes this one in between just once, you get a message to empty, even if only a few pucks are there. Wait one to cycle from which coffee residues are relatively moist and on the bottom of the container even slightly mushy, even after prolonged use of the same bean, and the same normal coffee as an option. So while one can easily dump in the organic waste the most, you have to flush the sediment always under running water out and has something in the drain instead of on the compost. This is because not all when flushing liquid ends up in the inner drip tray, but always something in the pulp container after a cleaning process, I could notice that in just the dried pulp container after rinsing was again some liquid.

The recommended cleaning procedures designed to be relatively simple. The relatively large brewing unit can be removed using a finger and should rather must, have plenty to find there is any coffee residue rinsed thoroughly once a month and be mechanically cleaned with the brush supplied coffee remains. The re-insertion is also problem-free, can be easily slide in and hook. Ok, one more thing, once a month they should also grease the grease is supplied, adjust also the first extraction, the brewing unit is greased at the sides everywhere. A look inside there on Photo. 1

In addition, the machine must be descaled regularly, of course. Both the manual, the quick start guide as well as a sticker on the machine is pointed out that otherwise may affect your warranty. Because the machine and the brewed coffee stores internally in a file, this will probably also apply to the Entkalkzyklen. After testing the app, I can confirm this, because there the time is calculated until the next descaling in coffee. The installation of the water filter and the application of the filter in the machine (a bit hidden in the Settings menu / water / Filtering) alter this apparently nothing. A little complicated when Entkalker is that the milk carafe must be filled with water and connected. Thereby, the square in front of the machine is somewhat limited and the drip tray needs to be more support in addition to the machine from below. (See Photo 2)

Bluetooth and Saeco-App (1)

Actually, I'm not a big fan of it, if any utensil at a time has Bluetooth and then of course, an app to the iPhone. This is usually a hundred times more effective advertising, as it then at the end is really practical or the user is any advantage. The more tense I had to try out this app and coffee mainly to see whether the long term sense. Quasi for the first time I find here at the Saeco Gran Baristo Avanti the app and Bluetooth very good and the app will also in the long term and often use especially when guests are there. Here, the app has proven to be an absolute highlight that so far impressed every guest, which I showed you!

The Saeco app is Bluetooth 4.0 enabled tabets Android and iOS ago. With Android, for example, operate the newer Galaxy Tabs. Leg the Apple devices is at least one iPad3 required as BLE device, the machine can only incidentally about the app can not be found via the normal Bluetooth view. I tested the app with an iPad 3 and Samsung Galaxy Tab S. The app is virtually identical on both systems and work up to this point without errors and convinced me very much.

The app is free to install and launch of Google Play or iTunes. For connecting the Saeco is turned on. If the devices have found each other, the Saeco shows the safety of a PIN code that you have to enter in the app. Then the connection is established up to a distance of nearly 10 meters remains stable connection before giving up then. The connection is fast and responsive without significant delay.

You can then make all sorts of coffees View and click on the app. Each coffee you can customize using the slider: strength, quantity of coffee, milk and the temperature can be selected. The particular choice you can then save and recall under own coffee at any time. By pressing a button on the tablet is enough to order next to the machine and it starts with the preparation. Only a cup you have yet even topsy questions and pick up the coffee. It is also possible via the favorites a queue with different coffees desired program, if you have friends there and to let these then prepare the order from the machine.

As described above, you can save the individualization of its coffee via the memo function directly on the machine. Here, however, the app offers a much simpler way of individualization and also significantly more memories than just the buttons on the machine. For everything that goes out on a normal coffee, the app is really handy. The regular coffee mornings I get to continue without tablet without app, simply by pressing a button.
In addition, the app also displays the maintenance cycles and indicates necessary decalcification. Even an empty water tank is at the same time announced on the app. In addition, you can take access to the statistics of the machine, how many drinks of any kind has been prepared. Also, the app access to the manual of the Saeco to available and adds even more information about coffee in general ready.

I thank all the readers of this added quite a long review for their attention. Have I missed something important or are there detailed questions, please do not hesitate to comment.

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