In another review of these shoes I have read that one should buy the shoes calmly larger (2 sizes). They would sit firmly still because of the Velcro. I then still the right size ordered separately. Fortunately! The shoes leihern some and if I had taken for my daughter to the great shoes she would now probably have no support in the shoes and constantly fall. The quality is quite ok for the price, they also keep warm. In the spring, there's then nevertheless again Lederpuschen that are simply second to none for us.