I bought the Selfsat flat antenna for receiving Eutelsat. I was skeptical at first, whether it is sufficient for it. Before, I was using a 80-bowl. But since I wanted to hide in the balcony, the antenna, I opted for the Selfsat. After I now use for half a year, I can recommend wholeheartedly. It achieves the same results as my 80-bowl and does not fall out in rain and snow. I have the antenna mounted at the level of the balcony railing on a balcony stand. By the angle at which the alignment is done, it still has clear view of the sky. Thus, it is not visible from the outside. Only downside is the alignment. The flat antenna can be much more difficult to align as an ordinary bowl. If they have been set up but for now, she is super.