Ordered in size 58 my pants. A perfect fit of the waistband. No comparison to other discounter offers. Am absolutely satisfied that the quality and fit is concerned. Smells not so strict in its reasonable suede, but, if at all, by genuine leather. Have the Disco underpants sent back and was wondering what I get time on Amazon. That the applications is not stand out like other pants no blemish, but would have underlined the quality of the pants. Color is antique-moor green. Think these pants will accompany me the next few years. I'm just guessing, priced to invest a little more, is worthwhile in any case. Have not been disappointed, strong buy recommendation.