New cooking pleasure

New cooking pleasure

Bosch HBD72PF50 built-in cooker hob combination / A / hob: ceramic / ceramic / stove Colour: (Misc.) Stainless steel / variable full width grill / Parental Control

Customer Review

Good day.

Enclosed is a very detailed report with its own tests on the living object (namely me). Our opinion in the last third under ticker and Conclusion. In the end, even supplements on the working life as an addendum.
But now I wish good entertainment while reading.

If the kitchen is over 10 years old and after 2 changes of location is no longer very handsome, then something new must be found ..... so my wife.
So the man gets a list of requirements and begins to look for:
- Reviews ... hundreds ...
- Reviews
- Price comparisons
- Equipment

With well-known manufacturers such as Bosch, Siemens, Miele, etc you get everything almost Modular, depending on what you need or think you need.
The outer shell looks the same, the equipment leaves hundreds of ways to.

My requirements:
Stove and oven operate separately as stand-alone installations of various, places --- hey presto the same time will cost 150 euros more.
Oven with pyrolysis, and exact, because the best friend is excited, so want to have - hey presto again surcharge loose 150
Induction please also because the art, supposedly power saving and also very fast --heisa again 100 Euro
Flex zones, variable plates, 1,2,3,4, ... pots, rießen 7L Einmachtöpfe, roaster, everything should go there - and another 100 more

And so we arrive at a 4-digit price and despair ...... but the woman wants, yes also has good argument that, after all, do not buy a new one every year. House Blessing in danger, I was not convinced 100%.
The killer argument, rightly, was decisive: "Finally, I am so constantly at the stove and it must meet my needs!" Where She's right ... Well appointed ...

And now the question:
Was it really worth it? The lush but investment is really worth?
After as early as 4 weeks of testing I have to say on parental leave as HIWI Haussmann: JAAAAAA! and again JAAAAA!

A) Delivery
10 working days after ordering the kit was delivered by forwarding agency.
The day before we were informed by the carrier that delivered the next day takes place at noon. It was queried whether anyone present and if not how long we need to be present to call. On delivery day, we were as agreed 1 hours before tel, informed by the driver and he was absolutely on time! Both packages were worn behind the front door. The packaging we wanted to keep as new kitchen still under construction.
Absolutely trouble-free delivery! 5 *****!

B) Installation + connection
In both packages drawings exist for the exact installation, detailed measurements with tolerances of cabinet or countertop cutout.
If this is carried out by specifying fit for example. the induction field perfect!
Attention! If, like us has a natural wood panels (beech) used massively sure that the surface of the solid plate is completely flat and without curvature, otherwise you can see this at the edge of the induction field for installation by the different gaps! Our carpenter had the countertop to expand again and regrinding ..
Built-in oven in cabinet is easily Schraubschienen means, on which the stove is placed. When Lifting / Slide necessarily work in pairs in the closet, is hard, top-heavy and unhantlich.Auf the back too sharp!
The elktr. Connection has an electrician performed (Rest is also in the operation guide that this is required for guarantee mandatory), took exactly 10 minutes and cost 20 euros. Both devices have separate power connections.

C) oven
What you can do with it ... missing is split atoms and print money, then it would be perfect!
No, really, we are a family of 5 and my wife pays great attention to healthy food. Accordingly comes much freshly cooked, baked, thawed ... on the table, a microwave, we never basassen.
The oven operates everything defrosting timer, (beware singles who finished lasagna is ready when you get home !!) switch with start request over top heat, bottom heat, both, extra grill top for brown crust, extra warmth below for solid cake base, ECO fan, preset amount of time and much more.
In the manual there is a brief explanation of the symbols with exemplary application and for persevering then a page long overview with Einstellvorschlägen for all kinds of dishes from a pattern Kochstudio, cake, ... etc ... We have tested 2 ---> 2 perfect.
After 4 weeks you get the well without the out list, then it goes by feel and compared to our retired 12 year old Siemens is already working in a different time!
Our favorite feature is the super quick heating. Approximately 4-5 minutes, 200 °, 7 Minutes 280 ° is already really impressive. Forget preheating! Recirculation then ensures even heat distribution for beautiful.
The double glazing is between cold air of an extra fan flowed so that the outer really fried after 90 minutes Cake 180 ° does not produce blisters. Our 1-year-old has been tested before and nothing has happened (of course after I had tested at 300 °).
BUT, the so used air escapes between the control panel and the oven door, the gap above the handle and can, after 90 minutes baking already be slightly hot so you first startled when pressing the buttons, no combustion but already quite warm. Somewhere the air cooling of the disc has to go we do realize, however beautiful that is not yet. The plate is cooled that you do not burn but about it, then hot out ... suboptimal.
The 3 telescopic shelves work well, the plates are still unscratched quality and after much rinsing. Baking foil on it, wipe off after cooling with kitchen roll or wet with washing up liquid. Sauber.

The two control buttons can be sunk only in OFF mode. Why ?? Poor in children who are turning to it like ..... and it can be controlled during operation also enable any child safety! Again: Why ??
I admit it may not toddlers unattended especially when no second furnace in operation, then this fits the child lock in the OFF state, since the furnace can not be activated. But we are only human, and mistakes happen because it would be nice if the technology can help there.
So change in the worst case the baking parameters by child's hand without you notice it first. Schade Bosch, that would really be a great plus!
So even a family wish what should be:
If you activate (please provide also during operation possible!) The Parental Control should be closed both the oven door disabled and the control buttons. Since the oven exterior is not really hot (except pyrolysis because it gets dangerous on the disc and about this but later notes) would be a great thing. If technically feasible but, upon pyrolysis the door is indeed blocked!

Pyrolysis: enthusiasm! Cheese and leek potato cake, which had left its external shape toward the furnace bottom ... us as black crust spread there was after pyrolysis stage III really a pile of gray ash. Wet Wipe ... fertig.Wers has not yet should it buy!
But without mechanics still is not all gone. Branded splash of tomato sauce eg Mussmann abrubbeln slightly stronger ..... but stop without chemicals and long exposure. In this respect, a real plus! Also good: The oven door is locked upon pyrolysis stage III after about 5-10 minutes and is only on after cooling. Pyrolysis stage I and II (temperature reduction and time reduction), we have not been tested. Branded cheese = Full Pulle.
Lt. Instructions should one take in the pyrolysis excerpts out, we did. Apparently keeping the roles the Temp. Of approximately 500 ° (according to description) is not enough. For this purpose there are 2 handles for hooking, is quick when the unhooking did the trick out, is well described but the first time ungewohnt.Geht later but even without this help. The two handles are also used when you want mitreinigen with pyrolysis of the sheets or grids, unfortunately is only one plate or grid.
Pyrolysis Stage III takes 2 hours. After about 15 minutes, the disc-cooling fan switches to the highest level, then comes out a warer storm above the oven door handle and this is very very hot later. At the grip you can then no longer hold (I think it is 1 to a maximum of 2 seconds. The disc then I no longer tried, I was all too painful.
So, dear parents: The children must be off! Lock kitchen or children supervise 100%, better turning when children go to school. Since it is very dangerous !!
To clean the oven door can be expanded and the inside cover lens we herausnehmen.Mussten now make once, stands with pictures in the manual, even in good German so that you understand it!
Visually we like the design very well, looks valuable and has shown no lack, is just Bosch standard, all look similar, do their job, have many functions reliably so far, price performance is certainly cheaper but alone if I look at the eyes of Verschraub-cheap plastic, hinges or handles the aperture or look at the low-cost suppliers ... so we decided everyone must know yourself.

D) induction cooker
Again, the instructions very well, once read, try, read again and already understood the principle of the 4 most important functions. Where and how the pots, boxes, Quick Boost and Parental Control.
Let's start all over Great:
Giant Romans, roaster (12L):
The entire induction field can be used for giant rotisserie than one, you activate both halves, the plates realize on the ground magnetic size and turn the right range an.Jede half to two halves can hereby be controlled separately, but for such a Romans roaster useless is the same everywhere sein.Dennoch, the whole floor is heated uniformly beautiful. TOLL !!!
2 Einmachtöpfe / stew pots (approx 7L):
To activate each half and makes the pots anywhere on the field. Thats it.Getrennte control.
4 pots / pans (up to 3.5L):
Each half can be cut in half again. This then can be controlled separately to 3.5L Size 4 pots / pans.
Optimal with 5 people are 2 medium size pots and pans 2 that goes very well.
Even with shared use of the induction plate stove recognizes the pots, only switches on when pot is on it, otherwise hazard warning lights flashing, no function. Removes a pot in one operation, the display flashes and the oven turns out this field for 3 seconds maximum. Excellent, you never need again to the turn off to denken.Topf down - from oven.
In addition, the stove should have a safety shutdown, which (in, turn pot so it and 60 minutes Nothing is changed to the settings or the pot moves) after about 1 hour of inactivity off the concerning. Section. Have we not been tested or required. When times it was the great festive roast we know more.
The Power Boost Boost heating is only in 2 areas when exactly, the pots in the middle of the left and / or right oven half, so it can max. 2 pots / pans rapidly heated werden.Aber caution fast is really fast here !, oil, onions pure and 10 seconds is the sizzling !! Really! It is also in the manual that you never pan + oil without heating alone is ... it is a soon clear why.
Conclusion: From Giant to small, up to 4 zones, accordingly 4 pots / pans can be operated independently in various stages..
But that is enough for a family kitchen straight ahead.

The touch control panel on the top is clear and functioning properly when starting and to wiping, thick greasy film is etc it you have to press and hold, and then the entire panel "EE" flashes to prompt for cleaning up!
Optically very appealing, almost intuitive to use, with particularly suitable induction crockery brutally fast, multi pots but also much faster than the old technology.
It is particularly good that the levels of heating can be changed continuously by a simple touch by tapping on the Subject. Number or the intermediate stage with his finger. There are really annoying system for induction cookers from other manufacturers, which make it necessary in stage 9 nine draufzutippen, or you have to drive along a scale with his finger and stop exactly at the level that you want to have. At Bosch, the scale is to "9" divided by "0", each with an intermediate stage. So to sum it 19 heat settings! If you have to take the boost function, even 20. In practice, I can now say, with the time you really use almost all, depending on the pot and filling it is then to have truly meaningful so many levels.

First unusual is in operation, the audible humming / whirring. The magnetic field generated somewhere vibrations and you can hear. In the lower to middle levels barely audible, with hood not. At the highest level "9" or in Power Boost clearly audible. It is not unusual but harassing the fan on the bottom turns off after a short time then one at that. If the hood to has it but done anyway.

E) Ticker oven:
- Buttons can only be in the "off" state to sink, the operation does not, then does not interfere with the child safety! Bad for families with small children.
- Oven door is locked only when pyrolysis.
- Disc cooling fan at pyrolysis stage III blows very strong and very hot air out of the gap between the door and control panel on the door handle. Getestetet pain threshold adults after 1 hour operation: 1-2 seconds. The door plate is also very hot in stage III despite cooling. So children away!
+ In normal operation, the disks-cooling fan is but strong enough to cool so that nobody burn their fingers. Tested at 90 minutes at 180 ° and 30 minutes 250 °.
+ Well-functioning telescopic shelves.
- Soiled telescopic shelves are very cumbersome to clean, we get now no longer really clean, not even with scouring.
+ Well-functioning pyrolysis
+ Super Schnellaufheizfunktion
+ Easy to clean, attractive design, valuable
+ Incredible number of functions

F) Ticker induction field:
+ Practical flexible zones
+ Easy to use, self-explanatory
+ "Easy" Teperatureinstellung and change, many steps possible
+ Great security features such as: parental control, automatic. Sofortabschalten when slipping from original place (which can also nervous).
- If pot slipped and partly relies on surface area immediately, for a good, annoying to others
- To get hard surface without leaving streaks, glass cleaners can permanently greet
+ Boost function on 2 surfaces, super-fast
+ Optsich also very nice to look at ... if clean .. :-)

G) Conclusion:
. Although not a panacea and a few small details regarding securing would improve against children's hands:
Strong buy recommendation!
But: From cooking with 4 pots of 3.5 liters up the induction field of family events is too small, then provide larger field with 3 solid zones and one probably 2 flex zones for another 2 pots, otherwise it is very narrow and awkward, because you always the edge and slipped in the control panel .... Larger costs just 300-500 euros more, with almost 1300 total (our price) yet one probably worth considering! Let's wait a few years and then probably.

Now even more / practical tips which I will add in no particular order:

1. We have pots / pans designed for induction (especially there is not actually particularly useful would be a better term), which have a larger / stronger iron bottom and faster hot. The multi-pots for all possible types of stoves / WMF, Fissler, ..) have less iron bottom, so the need for more. But also because there are differences. Inform yourself in advance of the iron core and how thick the aluminum hull is as strong. It may be that one or the other of our experience with the Schnellaufheizfunktionen not exactly divides ... which is then but the pots so!
Ex: Our pan after 10 seconds in Boostfunction hot, the onions Bruzzel. The pan of neighbors (Multi-pan for all types of stoves) creates in just under 20 seconds. After all !!
Yet all this is hands down faster than the herd of the last 10 years.
2. The ceramic surface is also hot! The heat is generated while the bottom of the pot and not under the ceramic surface but of course the box after a short time also ..... warmed by the pot. The fields indicate by the letter "H" in lower case or upper case, how dangerous it still is draufzulangen. "H" means AUA! I have it foolishly tested. "H" is without blisters but is also still hot. The bodies cool but relatively quickly.
3.The free cleaning of the induction surface is almost impossible you can take what you want, in the light of the hood radiator you always see any Fettschlieren..oder investing a final treatment with glass cleaner ... but that's not as ours, you can also madden, in a big family anyway pointless and pattern kitchen we never wanted.
4. The pots slip pretty on the surface, stirring with a hand in the pan does not work, the pots leave their place, the fields will flash, or go out dancing Samba between switching on and off. One must still grapple with the 2nd hand. If one top 3 large pots / pans, and forget the stirring capture these, these slides like the control panel ... and then the mice cinema goes to! Beep, flash, Any letters "EE", the whole program, even the one time the other. Can only prevent when activated after setting the child lock ... and disabled prior to any change. This sucks though!
Families, which should now take time 3-4 pots for cooking one probably is. really buy one these oversized induction fields to .... we come so justly but very happy we are not.
5. The sliding pots ensure the passage of time for small scratches on the induction area. There are polishes for mobile phone displays, as smart repair, so to speak, with this it's almost back raus.Aber new it is no longer natural.

Addendum than 4 months:
Everything still as described above, no defects, Tipp Topp!
After pyrolysis now 2 I admit: In Bosch really does it work very well! Oven cleaner and scourer are past.

Supplement 9 months:
No defects. 3. Pyrolysis incl. Baking sheet carried out. Results still outstanding. The stove looks like new ... except for the telescopic slides. The pyrolysis may not stay inside and look at now very patchy, with scouring sponge and we'll get it no longer clean.

Amendment 1 year:
It's done: The festive roast has confirmed it, after 1 hour to move in the same setting without the roasting tray or touch the key was turned off with an audible beep, the induction field. This function is so effective.

1880 238 super Rank: 5/5
April 9
Great !!!! February 51 Rank: 5/5
April 10
perfectly adapted 5 1 Rank: 5/5
June 3
On the top shelf Rank: 5/5
October 4
Too noisy 13 1 Rank: 2/5
October 18
great singer and entertainer Rank: 5/5
February 11

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