Not so convenient as that.

Not so convenient as that.

Food Saver V2860-I Device Setting 2 Welding Vacuum Aspiration Levels 3 speeds (Kitchen)

Customer Review

Not so convenient as that.

................... Initially this machine looks great, But! .

A faith euphoria passed the first test, it is clear that this high-end machine in its class do not have the finish that it should have given its price.

.......... Especially for the vacuum jars, no vacumètre or vacuum gauge, both on the machine on the lids of the jars .Keyboard however essential to know if the vacuum is well made and maintained in, unlike bags where the vacuum control is through visual.

.......... The lack of accessories which allow reuse of Trade jars lose a significant economic use

.......... Accessories, yet on sale in the US, that can be purchased via Amazon.com but watch the charges;

example: ..bouchons T03-0024-02 FoodSaver Bottle 3-Pack Bottle Stoppers at $ 9.97 ($ 9.97 Items: £ 7.90 + Shipping & Handling: £ 28.49 + Import Fees Deposit EUR 7.14 Order Total: £ 43 , 53)
Dissuasive, n 'is not it.

......... After 3 weeks of daily use that I blame the most to this .Is Machine lack of accessories making the most economical use.

.............................................. Bags .. ....................................

The bags all made on 3 sides, rolls on 2 sides, have a solder band 1 cm wide, why equip the machine with a welding strip only 0.3 cm wide? . Then advise the user to double the final weld in order to have a good seal. (Page 17 of the manual mode, § 7 important tips)
!! .. But to refrain welded sides. ?? ! (§ 5 same page same section)

For food everyday s oxidant quickly (pâté, ham, cheese etc ....), the fact of losing 3-4 cm each reuse real (not 2.5 cm as it says page 19 of mode employment) soon makes the use of bags for this type of use, economically prohibitive.
That in many cases by Prudence, Food Security would want these bags are disposable .This is to recommend BTW, page 23 of the mode of employment category: FoodSaver bags

Only a long term makes the bags some economic sustainability conservation.

Namely, with external extraction machines whatever their brands, we exclusively use embossed bags or rolls, therefore the most expensive.

Conclusion If the use of bags is very convenient to control the vacuum is well made and maintained over time, their cost is quickly deterrent for daily use extremely sensitive foodstuffs to air.

.................................................. The jars .................. .............................. ..........................

........... The absence of a device for measuring the vacuum makes us use the system D
One way to find out if a jar holds up well vacuum,
Just put in a balloon inflated, creating a vacuum, the higher the vacuum is, the more the balloon is inflated; if the vacuum remains the balloon remains inflated.

By practicing this system (with the jar of 2.37 L empty) I realized that the balloons by their flexibility does swelled up that after 2 or 3 cycles aspirations, demonstrating an early stop of the pump; it is best to fill the jars to the maximum allowed so that the amount of air to be extracted is as small as possible
For everyday use, the jars if they do not fêlaient could be used eternally, which in economic terms is an excellent compromise, easier to clean are ideal for food security.
But how to know if the vacuum is done well and stays there, jars n 'being equipped with a vacuum indicator. A small membrane on the lid s pushing it more or less according to the established vacuum, would have allowed a glance whether it is or not under vacuum, making them safer without more expensive (this system exists on some VacuVin cap)

For my part with conventional food bags the finest possible for the necessary flexibility, I make small bags of 6 x 5 cm or more slightly filled with air, in the void they behave as balloons, when vacuum there, they swell, I leave in the jar.
This gives an indication relative, but it's better than no indication at all .especially for long conversations.

Sales packaging is not ideal either. While initially it is interesting to have jars of different sizes. In use can not be obtained, only the size that suits us best.

......................................... The optimal machine performance is closely linked the amount and reliability of its accessories ................ I Made only takes 2 stars

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