Had these cartons ordered as there is no adequate packing boxes are in the well-known hardware stores in my view are really suitable. The best moving boxes I've ever had, were of Max Bahr (thick cardboard, stable, stackable without collapsing, etc.), which it no longer is yes. Then I ordered this one, which are not bad either. They are stable so far, but if I'm not seeing to it that the top 2 "cap" on the ends are firmly against the side walls, break the "cover" the top authorities of the next carton a. Also break the handles, although already enhanced by the fold-down, additional Pappgriff, a. It should again be made.