In Frankonia you still want to sell me Walter LRF 400 for 229.00 Euro. Then told me the same day evening, a friend of the current offer in NORMA24.de - a BRESSER 4x21 800m for unbeatable 109, - Euro. Ordered immediately. For this price you can not go wrong if you want a hunter simply measured only his territory (Distance spider with auxiliary objectives seen from a high seat). Every single game before firing "to lasers", but is not necessary. As a hunter with a good shot-gun at GEE (favorable zeroing range) but enough for me to be approximate if I now aim for 70, 100 or 130 meters. Because the range estimation on flat level is really hard if you have previously defined and measured no auxiliary objectives.