I have very very thick and very curly hair and for the first time in my life !!! I could wash my hair, let them dry and out without or tying or stiffen the ... Sure they are not as stiff as sticks, but my curls frizz ... turned into slight wave and the volume at the roots ... melted. This is great. Smoothing plates + the Remington and I like straight hair chopsticks in 10 minutes (instead of 45 minutes before and not as steep !!!). So really very satisfied :)