I do not understand the good reviews. Both turtlenecks that I ordered are already ausgetrisselt wearing the first (!!!), so have the neck, where can grow stubble on the day and should get the unsightly bright beads. Thus see de parts immediately, as if they were 10 years. Here my beard is at best average. Conclusion: just scrap of wandering in the waste for women and children probably OK for men even before the first wash. Hands off!