It was roughly the first few times though, uses the raw, although I found it rather quite effective this thing, and I think 30 euros for AC is theft. But BIG BAD and surprised this morning listening to the discs that I washed yesterday in my Konig tray after the first dusting with this stuff: REST glue on vinyl! Oh yes! awesome! and of course the result is the listening is catastrophic. I do not know if I will succeed to get back these discs in the relavant. what is this contraption ects that will direct in the trash and manufacturer and seller of this M *** will live in the depths of my hatred.