I have these Jackets ordered in 3 colors, because I need to ride apparel that I can often wash, which is convenient and is not expensive. The colors are great Sweats, the quality is better than the price suggests. The processing is simple but solid. The washes are probably some survive ... The material feels cozy and all in all this is a sweat jacket that fulfilled the purpose more. Normal Large I'm off GR42 / 44 and XL had ordered. sitting quite loose. So my husband gets this to work and I order the same one size smaller!