Unfortunately, the watches were then rather a disappointment:
1. The clasp is sharp and made little wertig that conveys an every time when you create a somewhat cheap feeling about which I then annoyed me every time. I also found the clasp too wide for the bracelet that is significantly narrower than the buckle on the site.
2. The screw of the members are not safe and tend to independently solve. I almost lost once a clock when I wore the arm because a screw had come loose! The problem I've heard from other owners of Uhrforen. Overall, the bracelet makes despite the glands only a mediocre quality impression (eg to the lugs).
3. The bezel could be in one of the watch with the red dot off-center snap over the 12, but was always one millimeter to the left or the right wrong.
I've returned both clocks again, also because I at the time was an opportunity to acquire a similar, but more significant Diver with green and black bezel also a reasonable price.
Conclusion: Stylish design! For the price and the performance / quality is probably still ok (as long as you do not loose).