On a beautiful boots just absolutely water permeable! The connection between the sole and the superstructure was so dirty and badly that it was enough to go on a wet meadow to get shut completely wet feet, despite intensive care even with good leather fat you got is not under control. After failed attempts me synonymous with camel in connection I called Amazon. I got a return form and then get my money back, which is no problem at Amazon, I'm motorcyclists and for the boots would have been ideal so what should make in camel reasonable. Werner