Have bought two plates, technically very, very good, run quietly and quickly. High data rate under both Linux and Win7 and XP, no experience with Win8. But the packaging: as I was not only enttäsucht but SCARED: Together with another supply of books flew the two plates in bubble wrap wrapped jauntily through the cardboard. What is Amazon thinks to pack so? Probably nothing. love AMAZON Packers: even if you are "only taught", that will not do! Dear people of AMAZON: DA YOU HAVE WHAT TO DO !!!!! I'll see if I'm going to need the guarantee list ..