I liked the pants not fallen. The color (dark blue) is pale and not as intense as can be seen in the picture. The fabric feels for edc ratios not to tetrahydric. The fit is not optimal. On stomach it falls too far from clear, of slim-fit no trace. On the legs and thighs they fit well. The length is okay. Due to the above-mentioned shortcomings, I have them returned. Pity!