Buy recommendation Siemens / Bosch EQ5

Buy recommendation Siemens / Bosch EQ5

Siemens TE503509DE Kaffeevollautomat EQ.5 macchiato / 15 bar / 1.7 liters water tank / anthracite (household goods)

Customer Review

We are now for 2 months proud owner of Bosch VeroCaffe bar in silver, with the Siemens EQ5 is identical macchiato. To make it short: we are super happy and the machine would immediately buy again. For us !! and our needs it is the perfect device!

We have not just made us with the decision and some equipment considered and drank a lot of coffee / Cappus / lattes / espressos. According to research on the net, we have defined the following key points for us: removable brewing unit, easily accessible via the display, good adjustment of various quantities of coffee / thicknesses and good frothing without a separate milk container (for reasons of cost and because of Additional cleaning effort.) At the final price to max. EUR 500 - 600. The choice was for us, ultimately the following devices: Melitta Bistro or Gourmet, the DeLonghi ECAM 23420 and the Bosch VeroCaffee bar / Siemens macchiato EQ5 (identical).

First, the DeLonghi fell out. The background noise (whistle + krötschen) in the milk frothing and the (non-existent) result was sobering. Really liked us have the Melitta appliances with the cappuccino maker: with my own eyes we have seen grow the milk foam. Really great! We decided against the Melitta because the price comparable Melitta Bistro just a Böhnchen display has, so no plain text display. So descaling / cleaning, not to interpret or apply various warnings without guidance. Equipped with plain text display Melitta Gourmet is about 150 EUR compared to Bosch / Siemens.

Eventually we stumbled upon the Siemens / Bosch appliances, so that we do not have on our map. The design said to us and the many options. Only the cappuccino maker, we have to distrust, to which was presented to us also. Since we were convinced !! In addition, we were able to save even some of the reduced price of Vorführgerätes an electric market. Here are some key features:

- The operation is on the three buttons and two knobs and the display extremely easy to operate + variable (quantity / thickness + double shot)
- Plain text display, conducts a well by cleaning / descaling, etc.
- Automatic cleaning / descaling, also combinable
- Arbitrary coffee / milk-quantity with every respect !! No fixed quantities!
- Separate program for cleaning the cappuccino maker after brewing coffee with milk
- Removable brewing unit
- Coffee outlet adjustable in height up to 15 cm !!
- Creamy milk foam and fixed
- Time window of automatic shutdown adjustable, additionally be switched off manually at any time

Negative point: not really, but in order not to leave it unmentioned:

- The temperature in coffee preparation with milk foam is not always hot. But to influence in which one example, the temperature of the device is adjusted to high, cafes without milk first prepared (my husband gets his big Cafe Creme now the first;)), in advance something pulls hot water and the cup swings it. But this is not mandatory. This point is for us personally !! no KO criterion

- Prompt to empty the drip tray even though only half full. But that is because the dish eg empties without prompting once a day, the unit has a built-in counter, but no sensor on the pulp container.

If you decided for this or any other great device, the ABSOLUTE Cafe enjoyment comes only with the right coffee bean. We initially thought that here too much hoopla is made to this point. We take back hereby !! We have now found significant differences and indeed in beans from the supermarket, discount or small roasters. Here indeed is required to prepare any his personal leaderboard!

We recommend the Bosch VeroCafe bar or identical Siemens EQ5 macchiato without limitation. Like so many others, we express our personal opinion which does not have to conform to others. So please do not personal and irrelevant attacks!

PS referring to other reviews following instructions:
1. We clean the brewing unit by 1 or 2 week
2. Water shell about 1 x weekly, the coffee pad should probably have other machines.
3. the strength / moisture of Restpads can affect as indicated by changing the grind in the manual.
4. after a certain time of the cappuccino maker can strike and it is only warm milk, despite constant automatic cleaning. If one breaks down the nozzle and inserts in hot water with washing up liquid or dishwasher detergent and slightly brushed the matter is, however, done. Here may from time to time fix and dry milk residue.
5. We have been the combination program 1 x Clean + descaling itself started prompted (for purchase demo with good cologne!) And were after 4 weeks again for cleaning. That was about 4 weeks ago.

Update 04-2013:
After more than half a year we still rejoice in our KVA. Everything works fine and we had no problems so far. Only once (november 2012) was the cappuccino maker in the strike and the problems that occur when users make wanted to start with us. We have everything first cleaned in hot Spüliwasser and then again in the dishwasher, reassembled and since foam machine and foam and foam .... Since we run only the "milk nozzle cleaning" program by the end of dairy terms (ie not the items settled and cleaned)). So we let it continue ...
The machine (as well as the identical Siemens KVA) have been successfully tested by Stiftung Warentest test winner and we are now !!

Purification of the KVA we have to make about every 4 weeks and the descaling calls the machine about every 3 months for soft water.

A small point of criticism: you have before moving into the coffee be sure whether there is enough water in the machine. Otherwise, the coffee is ground, pumped water and the cup is possibly only half full. The have but probably all the machines in this price range. Whether that recognizes a law that may cost 4 times, we do not know; would that price but also do not want to pay.

Update 01-2014:
We have our little machine now nearly 1 1/2 years and would still not be exchanged for any other them. Everything is fine and still tastes good coffee supergut!
We had now but sometimes problems with the milk frother, the strike and, despite all attempts at purification was not working properly. At the end of look in the manual and a loose leaf inlay helped there. Here is an exploded view of the milk foamer is displayed and also for people with visual impairment (I say only bifocals!) To realize that the following aid brings: sitting at the metal hooks of foamer above a black Gummiknöfchen. If nothing works you should take out the and carefully insert a needle. Here air is attracted and when adding the tiny canal goes just nothing. No sooner said than done and everything was cloud!

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