Once in local markets DVD's are no longer available in previously known selection, I am dependent on ordering online. After receiving the goods I was disappointed: DVD's not by MITSUBISHI CHEMICAL but by MOSER BAER INDIA. I did not expect anything else: In 4 different burners - Plextor PX820, PX891 Plextor, Asus DRW24F1St, Samsung SH118 - 3 different systems depending 4x / 8x / 16x with 3 Duch transitions (ie 36 DVD's) ge (ver) burned. With 2 different tools (including Pextools 1.3.3.1) on all 36 DVD's useless PIE values to 380 (280 max. Permitted) and PIF values to 40 (4 max. Permitted). Certainly the DVD's are a while playable but for archiving completely useless !!!!!! For comparison used DVD's from the last 10 years of MITSUBISHI CHEMICAL run today with PIE 40 and PIF. 1 Too bad, after also acquired commercially Verbatim similar useless, I'm going to try again with Taiyo Yuden. Shipping was as always exemplary Amazon.