I just have the positive reviews fool here. Probably one or the other of an Apple consumer comes because the headphones sound much better than the supplied one of which. Fit is okay, unfortunately, have to be exactly in the ear otherwise sound totally sch ****. Sitting it is correct the sound aktzeptabel. Did they just keep because I was zufaul to return. My billigster headphones is the PortaPro and hitting these plugs to lengths ... AKG and Sennheiser anyway ...