If these shoes are kickers then I am the Pope! My daughter wears kickers since she walks, they are always well cut and kickers's trademark is that carve large .... They are so narrow both in width and in height sweetie could not put his foot inside or but forcing and having super bad. It's a shame, but they are pretty impossible to put, they are poorly finished and do not look like ... and kickers for the return, that is four days that I have applied and still no news, I took 2 pairs, more than 86 in the wild, it is a shame !!!! I absolutely do not recommend!