My husband had what already priced in between Schiesser Underwear and every now and again. The old shorts also have the size M, so I can say that they do not shrink in the wash. Did the old laid on the new and they are the same size. New are also washed and tried and fit as expected. The black color is intense, and washed, not with the old out. The rubber band does not cut into, as it is quite wide. 005 corresponds to the low-cost brands from well-known discounters (A north / south) the size 006th Excellent quality / processing, flat seams. Just great!