the 611 in 14cm width I drive for about 3 years on the MTB (hardtail and Fully). I drive about 20,000 vertical meters and 2000 km per year. Better saddle I have not driven. Had earlier Selle Italia Flite different and was never really happy on longer trips. Especially the wide, flat nose, I personally find very comfortable. Saddle is aligned horizontally with me. Saddle has a beautiful carved ceiling. Can sometimes get wet. Would bring me the saddle immediately.