At stake is in the other reviews probably already all been said, so I would like to add just a short supplementary. Since these 2 games is not TV on the German Compatibility List for Playstation, determined some are confused, but both games run smoothly and without problems. Either there was now a patch or Sony has forgotten to put it on the list. It does in any case very well on the big TV with PS4 controllers. The graphics are excellent and it vermittel the feeling of a real game console.