Good equipment, but many misunderstandings.  Class sound ... - Fixed: su - again corrected

Good equipment, but many misunderstandings. Class sound ... - Fixed: su - again corrected

Pioneer multimedia system AVH-X8600BT (Electronics)

Customer Review

I have replaced the device with my Comand Mercedes CLK.
My Typical accessories:
'ACV CAN bus adapter, so that I can operate the Pioneer on the multifunction steering wheel:; redirec
'USB / jack extension for installation in the glove compartment (USB2 + Aux); redirect = true & ref_ = oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
'Active Brodit holder for iPhone 6; redirect = true & ref_ = oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00
'Brodit ProClip; redirect = true & ref_ = oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00
'Original Apple-> Lightning charging cable
'Apple Digital Adapter MD826ZM / A; redirect = true & ref_ = oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01
'IProtect Dock Extender Extension; redirect = true & ref_ = oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
'DeleyCON stereo audio cable; redirect = true & ref_ = oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00
'Amazon HDMI cable; redirect = true & ref_ = oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00
'Installation kit with double din bezel; qid = 1426503450 & sr = 8-2 & keywords = ACV + W209
'DIN ISO Antenenadapter; qid = 1426507338 & sr = 8-2 & keywords = DIN + RadioAdapter

So much in advance, it is supposed to be a review, no installation instructions. Nevertheless, for the odd important to know that it is not done with the purchase of the device alone. You get here definitely a multimedia center that can stuff. Much is advertised but misleadingly, offering for me anyway relatively little benefit.

My Expectations:
'Much better sound
'Easy handling
'Apple Car Play
'Telephone function, speakerphone
'Operation my mobile apps on the Pioneer screen
'Good optical integration in the vehicle
'Easy installation

Installation proved to be not easy, but was overcome after a few attempts.

Now for the device:
'Sound: first big disappointment after installation: Although better than the old equipment, but not justify purchasing. After I then went through all the settings, I found the adaptation to the listening position. The equalizer alone had not brought, but the adaptation of the speaker distances to the listening position had "front left" a "wow factor" caused already in the pre-assigned settings. - The sound is classified as excellent in my opinion. Even series speakers (which were then exchanged for the Eton POW 172) provide a surprisingly good sound quality here.
'Operation: actually almost self-explanatory. If you, like me, has previously studied the Bedinungsanleitung at Pioneer, you think you will be slain with functions. - This is not like that. The Settings menu is clearly structured and you always know what you are doing. The operation itself is very simple with a little routine.
'Apple Car-play: I would say at an early stage - as determined is still a lot in the near future. One has to be aware that this unit only offers much when a Smartphone is connected and you at least "Edge" has better 3G reception least. GPRS is not even Siri, with Edge sometimes. Otherwise ists a radio with good sound, on the CDs and DVDs (in the state) can be played, music from SD card or USB stick, MP3 player or iPod can be played. Apple Car-play includes all 6 apps, including Spotify and Maps. aha radio is integrated and provides many channels, because if one has mobile network coverage.
'Telephone function convincingly. But even with Siri, otherwise dangerous to use while driving. Handsfree Micro is. Brilliant voice quality.
'Operation my mobile Apps across the screen: it is touted! Unfortunately this is not so, at least not with the iPhone. I wanted to use my purchased offline navigation app - Nope. First, you need the Apple Digital HDMI adapter, an HDMI cable and the original iPhone charging cable. On the iPhone, the Pioneer AppRadio app must be installed obligatory. So, now, there converted into the phone settings on Pioneer Input the iPhone from USB1 on AV adapter and you've got a no longer: Apple Car-Play! But you get on the phone the message that AppRadio will be started. Confirmed with OK and you get the phone screen displayed in a questionable quality. Wipe, tap - everything helped nothing - no Bedeinung my phone at Pioneer screen. Started navigation app on mobile, image appears on the device. No operation possible. So I then prefer the phone to, for there I see at least something. But there's a lot of app-radio buying apps: Browser, many navigation apps, etc. The benefit of this AppRadio Apps remained for me but just because I still have the CarPlay lost functionality hidden. Siri has but also works in this mode. To activate CarPlay again, it unfortunately does not suffice, the input again to switch to USB1: No, the Apple adapter must get out. I again CarPlay. - The one star I draw from this. The only advantage was that Siri has also works in radio mode. That's not the case with no AV adapter. One would not have all the time to CarPlay app screen in front of him so, but listen to the radio to know what is going on and sometimes switch the transmitter. Here then the home button must be pressed to activate Siri.
I then still a Samsung S4 Mirror link tries to konnektieren, but unfortunately did not succeed, which does not mean that it generally can not.
'Optical integration. Well, for the Mercedes-Design Pioneer can not. The Comand has integrated much more harmonious. If you are not inventive during installation, so choose the default installation method, one has a protruding 3-stage design: double-DIN bezel, Pioneer outer frame, front panel. As annoying I also still feel the not insignificant protruding bottom control bar, which also makes the touch operation in the bottom of the screen almost impossible with large fingers. Looks like a projecting roof on the house.
'Installation: because it comes when CLK is not far to the Pioneer box. So the system sold mounting kit. A fumbling without end, the frame does not festzukriegen. I habs but then managed, albeit short of a nervous breakdown. But even for Pioneer can not, provide the just standard. Every vehicle is different and you need well-specific installation accessories.

The delivery is actually there, what you need, and 2 USB-A to USB-B cable. This I have not used, because I wanted to "outside" have all the connections to not remove the unit again later need. So now depends on USB1 the original Apple charging cable with iPhone and 6 on an external USB2 USB port in the glove compartment, which also still the same has a jack for the aux output. Then a stereo RCA subwoofer output, just in case one should come to. The HDMI cable is now "blind" in the center console, if the AppRadio app will be to use times.

To consider when connecting: An error in the installation instructions. After a telephone conversation with Pioneer you knew right what I wanted: the connection for the CAN bus adapter is mistakenly identified as "remote connection" for an optional Pioneer remote control. The jack is the CAN bus connection. Especially confusing because a CAN bus cable is with us and in the instructions that here the adapter is ran. Only in a 3-pin molex connector now fits times no jack :-)

At the harness, there is still a relatively long green cable installed, which should be necessarily connected to a hand brake switch. - Is indeed the case, because otherwise is nothing to look at video, not even in the state I have the cable once briefly to body mass held and already went :-) video.

Conclusion: click here for under 500, - Euro a very high quality multimedia device with outstanding sound characteristics and many connection options. One star deduction for, in my opinion unreacted mirroring my iPhone, including service of my mobile apps. Nevertheless, a strong buy recommendation.

Supplement after a long business trip:
As I wrote ... a better CD player with DVD and radio. Wireless coverage nothing goes. Siri I must now yell and it works, not in spite of 4G. Simply aborts and the last syllable repeated my request. Annoying is particularly pleased that the CarPlay fashion with my current NaviApp on the iPhone (which is not always indicated on the Pioneer) is simply switched to AT ANY announcement on iPod. This means that each time after an announcement and sometimes these are in very short time a lot, you have to re-select the source that you want to continue listening. Is that normal? No, very dangerous! One is thus forced abzustöpseln the phone. Thus no CarPlay and no more charging function. I have contacted the Pioneer office, they will look at the times. Had I bought the Comand NEN amplifiers, I could have saved myself the trouble and would have nen good sound. For now 2 star deduction. I report on ...

So, now was the unit for 3 weeks! in repair with TRS - seemingly a Pioneer Service Station. The device was after I called 2 times there and I was told, you still waiting for a replacement part (1st call) and no no, for a spare part was never serviced (2nd call), unrepaired returned, bearing the words " device tested and OK, filled with new firmware ". Well, maybe I'm wrong, but I comparing times with NEM computer: I install the operating system, there's nothing left, and I have to adjust everything. The supposedly updated unit had but all my settings made (except for the one that anyway must be reentered again when disconnected from the mains) is still stored. Installed OK, and equipment: it works as before - namely not. - A star at most for the good sound, that's it. Pioneer I give because not even the guilt that usually produce good equipment and there is always a time, has the error. Generally, therefore, the device is not bad per se. But the partners and distributors with whom they work, you should probably choose better.

Unfortunately, I have not purchased the product from Amazon - the time of purchase there was the unfortunately not. Bought at an online retailer, which begins with "T". - With whom I now argue around me, because he knows no warranty, refers me to his lawyer and the opinion is: if we Pioneer sends money, then we will replace the unit. - Total unseriös.Mit Pioneer I called again, and the thought: this is a bottomless impudence what drives there.
Annoying, but the thing I can not do anything. Fast 500, - down the drain and trouble to boot. I'll probably have to sue court, or hope that the Pioneer "... car audio" dealer says a few clear words.

quieter Player Rank: 5/5
February 1
Very good quality 116 Rank: 5/5
February 21
Tea Strainer Rank: 5/5
April 27
Great product 680 Rank: 5/5
August 5
Met my expectations 73 Rank: 5/5
May 1
almost perfect 17 2 Rank: 4/5
March 5

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