have recently these gloves. They wear well and are also well made. Now to the big gripe. I have these gloves nat. as also indicated bought for the winter. As the temperature now slowly migrates below 0 ° C I thought perfect for testing and was sadly disappointed. Even still a few hundred meters, I realized my hands are cold. So for short distances just about ok, but who has more than 2km thicker gloves themselves should increase for the cold season.