The pants were meant for my husband, but has rather strong thigh and trousers looks at it just does not look good because the pockets stick out funny. For the really nice pants processed can but really nothing, my husband is angry and my brother is thrilled and has already ordered the matching jacket. Lovely, too, that the legs aind also worked for big men long enough, you can shorten it always ... but who is great to look forward to in these pants ...