I have these 5 lamps bought for in-laws, as a gift for their chandeliers, light-output downwards. These have bulbs that take forever to light and then light comes as station lighting. just does not .... Well, today received the lamps and tested only once in my chandelier, light-output upwards !!!. An energy saving light bulb 60 Watt out and this in here. Called woman, should times turn on the lights and tell if something is different than usual. Answer: Yes, you da ne other lamp in it, which is lighter and you have the lampshade dust ... Häää. dusted? I, no, only this lamp from Philips in and turned on, that's all. Well, now I may also order for us 5 pieces. I was just the viewing angle is very important, and this clear version looks similar ner old light bulb, even if you just plan / And looking. Had already closed the Crescent variant (frosted glass similar) had, but there are shadows. Bin with the E14 candle bulbs he entered as a substitute for reflector lamps. Really good warm light, no aperture and no slackening of his felt brightness in prolonged operation. I'm thrilled and would not hesitate to these bulbs when sometime but then possibly broken, buy again.