I have returned the pants due to poor workmanship and poor fit. To process: The seams were wrong buttons loose (have to first use likely not survived) .To fit: The cut of the pants was totally atypical when compared to all other leather pants that I have tasted so far. That does not sit leather pants on the hip is clear, but these pants you could pull up almost under the armpits (but then had the legs for short) ... much too high cut. That there are still 2 stars is related only to the very reasonable price.
