I had imagined something more. Certainly, the pants for the weekend rider who makes a trip to Baggeresee suitable. I myself am min. 3 times a week on the road (mainly 90 min indoor cycling). From the first use, after about 45 minutes I noticed that the pants from slipping and therefore also the seat cushion in place. That's a No, of course. I must say that it was not because of the size. The fit prior to use and after washing still. So it can not lie, because the 2nd test showed the same result. Now, one might say, the pant is very low and I have to say yes. However, should cyclists who see cycling as a sport or hobby, to buy the same reasonable cycling pants and not order the so-called underpants. So it's better to spend a little more and longer on the saddle or driving to have fun. Star there by myself for the fast delivery.