I first found the AmazonBasics media displayed at 4 euros, but we could not order it, and when it is released, it was 21 euros, I turned the cart to decide on what choices 18 euros and from the other dropped to 14 euros ... Amazon prices that vary fast! It is best to beware: IT enables "profit oceans" to have waves, some loss of islets are discovered but it is better to trap you ... That said, I ordered the same time articles in stock at Amazon, but this item, made in China and sold in Jersey happened before ... To those who wonder whether this model appropriate for their suction cup, the diameter of the round center piece is 9 cm. To those who want to know if it is too big or not, this object is part of an outer circle of 20 cm in diameter. To those who would know his weight, he makes 670 grams. I tried it on a table and a C3 C3 Picasso, he sticks very well, and its non-stick pad is excellent. That said, I think it's the same model as the AmazonBasics, probably made in the same place, so choose the cheapest, at a price of sandstone waves ...