I wear now more than 20 years Martens and have now come into the embarrassment to me again a few new Zuzulegen 1460'er. Property me then that is the "Asian" version purchased. I was then but disappointed with the Quality of the boots. They make over my old Martens no longer the stable impression, the leather (or whatever the stuff is für'n) fässt be like rubber and the sole has the character of an athletic shoe-completely soft ... And then the Fat Logo, well ... Did the shoes sold again and brought me some decent (Made in England). Although an end to expensive, but to me it was worth it !!!