given the comments of the previous customer I wait to see if the load will keep or not to add a new comment but I what I regret is that the product description is not accurate enough. Indeed, it is mentioned 30 mm diameter and it would be worth mentioning winder including: the exact diameter of the dial is 20 mm is increased to 25 mm with the ring surrounding said winding dial and 30 mm inclusive me who appreciates the "big" watches, I am disappointed by against the clock looks good and deserves an extra star just for that cordially