As already written some before, but the size drops at adidas extremely small (at least two size smaller)! For this reason, we have the same size 164 ordered, although our son carries 140/146. The shirt fits very well with some air to grow into! I have times the mass of the t-shirt. Maybe it helps one or the other then when selecting the size! Chest (at Gr.164) approximately 45 cm measured from armpit to armpit. Back length is approximately 62 cm. Washing I'd left because the stars and the round black DFB logo printed / pasted. The other logos are sewn Clean design, so there is nothing to complain about. Measurements for size 176: Chest ca.47,5 cm, back length about 68 cm.