I thought after the first (65 Km) and second (25 Km) test drive. My seat bones hurt so much that I thought the Saddle (611 active in 15er width at Sitzkn. Distance of 12.5 cm) I'll send back. After a nice phone conversation with SQLab (Who told me that it was a good sign and is normal when the sit bones do initially hurt. Man must with a fist on the Compare sandbag, which has to get used to it.) I put the saddle then the saddle tip slightly upward, and lo and behold, Since then I have no more problems. The seat bones have become accustomed to, and the male portion is unloaded 100% sure. Am now a few 100 km on the clock (cross bike), and nothing hurts more. He's worth the money, looks good and is well processed. I would give it 3 stars more if I could. You have to set it properly. then you have 100% fun with the saddle.