I wanted speakers that fit into the original mounting holes of my Opel Vectra B. For this purpose they should sound good, what can you actually expect in terms of size. The adapter rings I've made further ado itself. The remaining installation was done without any problems, thanks to the installation template and the well to be installed ends retaining clips. The Pioneer TS-G1733i are actually their money more than worth it. Together with the built-in the rear doors TS-G1332i and my 4-channel Pioneer car radio, they unfold in my Vectra B a punchy sound that is superior to the already elderly Bose speakers to classes. The basses have sonorous depth without flatten the very present, but balanced mids. The heights are actually there, where they belong - in my ears! - And do not scratch on the nerves, as usual with various cheap speakers. They are loud enough to neutralize speeds and noise beyond 200 km / h without distorting. So please be careful when flying low, so the good sound does not endanger their own health and that of others ;-) I highly recommend these speakers, plus 5 yet an asterisk :-)