I can only say, good! Here really always comes out the same quality of coffee. This is probably because, that the water is brewed before, and not as in other machines, continuous heat. Furthermore, the filter insert, type of construction, as well as "not due Kalkan". Here really comes out of the coffee, the one pure puts a pad! And since the next advantage is obvious that there are many third-party, like any other system, let alone the price of the machine and at very reasonable Padpreis. The machine is very simple, seems sturdy, and does what it should, excellent! Only to criticize might eventell the high proportion of "crema foam", the produced this machine due to the "baffles" in the filter element, and not to everyone's liking. (But I finds Klasser) - TIP: check SURE, who wants to buy a pad machine !!!