So the pants fit before as expected and wears well. Absolutely you should not wash the pants before wearing. I did not do it and be scars my hand. The seam on the pants are so rigid and rough, that with repeated attacks in the pocket (to get to the phone or the cigarettes box) knuckles aufschrammt at the back of the hand ... But after 1 wash cycle is this problem of the world. Furthermore, the zipper (right pocket) or the extension of the closer is (no idea what that is right ;-)) dropped after a short time. Thus, the bag is no longer available, unless you look at tinkering a spare part ... But otherwise, the pants are very good quality processed and stained not from or. In seen whole I would buy the pants again and also recommend ...