These long gloves arrive at elbow height or rather just before the elbow (I'm not big 1m60 and makes 36). Mittens are a darker gray than in the picture. The thumb hole would have deserved to be wider to move the thumb more comfortably and to be more at ease in the movements of the latter. I have small hands and fingers so fine if it's not your case, think twice before buying them. Apart detail not very serious in my case, no complaints. They are hot and pretty.