I ordered the pants in gray, to carry them home as a sofa trousers. Unfortunately, had already after a few days, a hole between the legs, which I then sewn by hand. Thank goodness it was in the seam. In addition, the pants have wear after two days, extreme Reibeflusen on the inside surface. You can tell just the low price of the pants, but otherwise from the top Tragekomfotz ago. Inside it is already warm and fluffy. Although it probably will not last as long as a brand pants, I'll probably re-order another.