I'm still impressed by the dry cloth, it has lost a bit of suction but for which it is already "years old and I wash my car in the summer every week and the dry cloth thus ends up once a month in the washing machine it dries still very well the entire car. It goes even without problems for a car the size of Opel Astra H Caravan, only the discs I have now with another cloth then dry but am still of the opinion that needs to get it deducted no star there Considering the age.