We have the Saeco Talea Ring Plus for 8 weeks and are very satisfied. The menu navigation is simple and you have programmed all the settings quickly. The SBS system is ideally suited to make mild to very strong coffee or espresso. Especially the espresso gets the SBS system a super crema and is also hot. As we enjoy Macchiato especially latte and cappucino, we have the Milk Iceland bought that makes a super milk foam. But even with the frothing you get acceptable results. The design is visually appealing and they can stow nicely in a corner as it is easy to move with its 3 reels. You also always indicates whether water is missing, or drip tray and the coffee grounds container is full. The pull of the water tank takes some practice but if you have the hang of this works flawlessly. Conclusion: Super Machine + Milk Iceland = K & E de luxe!