Personally I find the underpants visually appealing and comfortable. Therefore, I have the same combination additionally ordered in short version. Unfortunately, after already 2 months on a pair of underpants, the seam between elastic waistband and cloth broken. I've never experienced in Schiesser underwear that I favor. Nevertheless, there are 4 points, because otherwise I consider the price reasonable comfort, quality, and am optimistic that the broken collar seam remains the exception.