This pin is the best combi pen for touch screens and a coolie, you have to spend not 30 euros for a Bamboo - which is quite enough. Unfortunately, at these low cost versions of the pen clip and it stuck in the Hemdtaschebzu or on the ipad cover very shaky and a pen (I always buy several, because I use them all) were reversed. Too bad but for this price that can happen just once.