The short version I had, still bought long. The long pants are also very good, the same material u. Style. Did the red stripes taken, are something more striking, since I use the trousers only for cycling. The Red Stripe see our range of very well. Have again taken the size S, which is the right place for 1,69m + 67kg. The trousers have exactly at my size, the right length, not too short as it is in size S often. Had the size M tried, was clearly too large, above schlabberig. Can even my Vaude Inner shorts with seat cushion underneath tighten without which it is too tight. Upside down it goes, until the long Ultra u. The short Vaude about it. Because the fabric is very very flexible, everything is possible. Think long trousers ranges while cycling to about 7-8 degrees + made. For colder I will order my inner roughened winter version. It is that I'm happy with the Ultra-pants looks. The funny thing is that the zipper on the legs is not exactly laterally but slightly rotates forward. But does not interfere.
