Ansich pants is conditionally acceptable, something far everywhere, legs for me a bit short (193), characterized the moves on the bike down a bit high. With boots no problem, but unfortunately it is a "biker pants" unusable. If anyone can tell me what knee protectors have to look on the thighs, then I put on my bad review you back. The protector pockets sit about 20cm too high. In the state it goes straight, then goes straight up the protector on the knee, but it is sitting on a nunmahl Mopped. (Or did I miss a trend?). With knee bent the protector sitting on the thigh. Thus a smooth 6. If the last point also deducted if possible. Unfortunately, I have been given the pants and the return period had expired.