I wanted to buy this winter A thinner ski pants in addition to the already present with me. The successful ever. The cloth with the lining is thinner than usual. Nevertheless, the beautiful pants keeps warm. They can theoretically carry without long underwear, because the lining roughened pleasant .The quality is as always convincing in Mammoth. Only the width at the bottom is not so great that the pants fit through the exit boots. For this, the pants are not created. I forgive a result, four out of five stars.